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Happy Birthday Ranka!
It’s that time again, the best day of the year besides maybe Christmas. Ranka’s birthday! Last year I created a shrine the best I could and this year I have been trying to draw something for Ranka but since my drawing skills are horrible it isn’t ready yet. Instead here is another shrine, I put it together at the last minute so sorry it’s not very good.
Since that is not nearly enough I am also celebrating with something I love, Ranka fan art. I picked out some of my personal favorites here so enjoy. My only restriction was it wasn’t something I used on my blog before so go check my other posts, like the best outfits rankings, for more great fan art. Sadly I don’t have a source for most of these to give credit to the people who deserve it but you can go on pixiv and find almost all of them if you wish.
I’d just like to add I love how Tony Taka draws Ranka. I wish he had done more of this.
You’ll notice a lot of Magical girl Ranka in this, she just brings out the best in artists.
I wish I had the source on this, it is so good I am not sure if it is official or not.
I didn’t notice before but I think that is Alto in the crowd right there.
Couldn’t leave out the avatar I use for myself on this blog, it really captures Ranka’s aura well if you ask me.
The world lacks far too much Ranka in a kimono.
Carnelian does a really great Ranka! I wish she had focused more effort on to Ranka and less on to Sheryl and Alto.
So cute, fairy Ranka with the teddy bear is adorable.
I would ship Ranka x Ranka but I think the universe couldn’t handle it.
This is really cute, who needs that one guy that ran off with the Vajra queen anyways.
Yet another artist that does not spend enough time drawing Ranka sadly, I think everything else is Sheryl.
One of my favorite artists on pixiv, can find all his/her works here.
A bunny Ranka is fine too.
I keep mistaking this for official art but I love Ranka’s look in it.
Never enough kira~!
The outfits here are really interesting and detailed, I really like the wings too.
I love fairy Ranka in the mirror, it’s a very cool picture.
There are a couple of things in the way here but I love nurse Ranka and this is probably my favorite fan art of it.
My 13th and final magical girl Ranka picture. I love them all.
Not the best drawing but I love how cute she is here.
Ranka goes well with cats too. Not sure I like Brera in the picture but what can you do.
Finally another drawing from my previously mentioned favorite pixiv artist. If I finish my picture I will add it somewhere. Happy birthday Ranka!
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Great job! Happy Ranka day!
thank you. ^_^
Good job. Those fan art are really pretty.
thank you for the suggestion to do this.
Fan art is cool! And if Ranka x Ranka is too much for the Universe to handle there is always Ranka x Gumi (the Vocaloid who is based on her). With art to boot.
Also wanted to ask since the relevant threads are closed – why do some Ranka fans seem to feel she has to be with Alto to be important? I, for one, think that Alto ended up with Sheryl but that the *story* is about Ranka (and also if I were to choose one of the two to hang out with – Ranka every time, I don’t need more tsundere in my life). The ending of the second movie, in my view, actually makes sense if it’s a story about how Ranka became an adult – because she did, she went fro girl next door to budding but dependent star to a growing crush and finally to accepting herself as an adult on her own merit, even without her crush. Once that happens and she sings her new mature song, the story is over, and what happens to Sheryl and Alto can be left to the fandom (with a few hints).
I wouldn’t say the results of the love triangle have anything to do with her as a character so in that sense no it doesn’t matter (in fact I think the movie love triangle was more fan service). I mean it’s not like she changes who she is at the end just because Alto picks Sheryl or her. I can’t speak for others but there are two reasons I find it important. One, it was important to her so even if I think Alto is a rather boring character who is a dime a dozen if she loves him I support that. Two, I can’t just ignore all the facts I’ve seen. It would be different if every single thing didn’t point at Ranka originally that I’d confidently say it’s a 99% chance. I simply want to show this because I feel like it gets covered up by shippers. I’ve see enough misinformation on the internet to just want to offer a counter to all that.
Also it does give the general impression of one being a loser and one a winner, sure that doesn’t actually make it true but it’s rather annoying to deal with from fandom. I even get it from Ranka fans. I’d probably be more satisfied with the movie results though if they had showed it a little more clearer to be just as you had said rather than leaving it more vague. Also the story clearly is about Ranka, there is no Macross F without Ranka like there could be without Sheryl or even Alto.
Still I think it’s a good sign that so many Ranka fans love her for her and not just for a pairing. I notice a ton more Sheryl fans in it for just the shipping with Alto (just look at pixiv) which doesn’t speak as much to the love or quality of the character (not trying to bash just an observation). I still stand by my assertion the movie plot was mostly made for fan desires and even those shippers who only cared about that. Not to belittle movie Ranka though as I’ve said I love that Ranka for reasons similar to yours.
Well, to be fair, not every Sheryl shipper ships her with Alto. (I also know Sheryl fans just for Sheryl, they just are female – Sheryl is a far more enticing target for imitation than for admiration).
Some people actually ship Sheryl x Ranka, and the evidence seems to point that she does, at least in her mind, play for both teams. (Of course, Universal Bunny is fanservice *inworld* but I think there is more to it, and perhaps her liking of Alto is partly due to the fact that he blends both genders). I have seen an “OT3” solution discussed – but while many people like it, I am not at all sure that Ranka would go for it. Sheryl probably would. Alto… who the hell asked him? 😉
As for movie stuff being fanservice – well it is nearly ALL fanservice in the movies, especially the second one, just in a wider definition of fanservice. It did get me to the “wow” point once – a hidden graphic reference to Tezuka (the Hyotan Tsugi on a toy stall) was very closely followed by an “everything has a soul” discussion that sounded like a Tezuka quote. (The speaker? Ranka, of course). Just how many lingering Tezuka fans ARE there? But Kawamori dot THAT in, too – probably because he is a Tezuka fan himself (nearly a certainty for someone who started working in the anime industry in the late 70s and made it big in 1982)
I like the way you put that, imitation instead of admiration. It really fits well. I didn’t mean to imply people only liked her for shipping though just when I look around there is a significant percentile who care more about that then sheryl herself.
I use to like Sheryl x Ranka more a while back, their relationship sure was developed way better than anything else in the movies. Even in the series I found it rather interesting. I’ve heard talk of Ranka being bi before but not sure I’d put a ton of stock into. The only reason I can remember is because she called Alto beautiful and thought he was a girl in ep 1. I’d say that is a rather common thing for girls to say though. I’ve heard theories that the Universal Bunny concert was more about showing how into Sheryl was with herself which I tend to agree with. I think all 3 would’ve been the best solution here, realistically I can’t see any of the two being able to be without the third and not feeling guilty enough to break apart the relationship.
Pretty much what I think and I’m not surprised in the least Kawamori would add something like that in there. I really don’t mind the movies being a service to the fans everything considered except for a couple of things need to happen then. One, make sure you show us what you really think, which I think he did somewhat and in a subtle manner. Two, make it clear this is not canon (or at least his story creation) which is the part that loses me because if anything more people seem to buy the movie as canon over the series now. At the very least with regards to the love triangle and the fate of Alto even if they don’t view it in the rest of the movies. Which is why I write some of what I write because I don’t believe Kawamori really views it all as more canon (if he really cares at all).
Getting a little too off topic it’s more in a larger picture a frustration on the fact that every single thing the franchise sells has to have that canon label no matter how ridiculous (kiss in the galaxy) it is. Also it rather dilutes the product imo when they label everything canon because it sells better. For example the Macross 30th game is fun but I don’t feel it needs to be considered canon to be worthwhile. Just the setup was rather ridiculous and seems to be filled with plot holes but take out the canon aspect and it’s all good with me. Just don’t make stuff that will change the meaning behind the original intended stories and I’m fine basically is what my beef is with it all and especially with the Macross F movies.
Well, I could see the movies as “in-universe movie filmed after the events” (as is canon for DYRL; and, in parallel with SDFM, Frontier TV would then represent actual events). Fits in some other stuff too, notably the partial whitewashing of Grace in order not to fuel violence against Galaxy survivors.
But in that case, I doubt any of the people involved would have allowed a *radically different* resolution of the triangle than reality. I mean, if the reality was Alto/Ranka nobody would be happy filming Alto’s rejection of Ranka’s feelings and (muted but rather obvious) confession to Sheryl. It’s one thing to twist events that are not reported to the public, but stars (both Sheryl and Ranka) being what they are, their long-term relationships would be well known!
So, the very existence of the movies seems to exclude Alto/Ranka (without Sheryl) even if not strictly establishing Alto/Sheryl. That before any discussion of what was happening in Frontier TV. I really don’t want to get into that. (Personally, Ranka is too “loli” for me to see sexually – but I am 35 and Alto is 18, so that can be different for him).
As for Kiss in the Galaxy, I could not find a full version online. But from an ending spoiler I could find, it seems that it makes Sheryl/Ranka (actually getting MARRIED) canon?!
A Sheryl/Ranka reality would certainly allow for the movie ending to be filmed in-universe. The idea would be that Alto confessed his love but then never returned and, as hinted the ending credits song, Sheryl eventually woke up to be with Ranka (as they keep hoping Alto, who is their dear friend whatever happens between them, is alive somewhere out there with the Vajra Queen). Yet the movie’s ending was intentionally fudged to appeal to the part of the inworld audience not very happy with same-sex marriage. (The real Sheryl and Ranka would be but distant pop stars on some other planet for that part of the audience, so it would not really matter what they do, just what is filmed).
Yet, this version of canon seems a bit overboard… but, Kawamori. Overboard does not matter. Actually sounds like a fair resolution. Except that if Frontier TV is canon Alto never disappears, and just Sheryl/Ranka does not really work well enough with him present… Unless he went all Hikaru, decided he does not belong with a pop star at all, eventually married someone in the mercs (one of the SMS bridge bunnies? Klan, who eventually got over the death of Michael?) and, as it happens to mercs, got killed some years after the TV ending, thus having no input into the making of the movies? 😉
on the topic of what happens in kiss in the galaxy I would not put any stock at all into that manga meaning much. The details were not worth me remembering about it but I heard them on a Macross World podcast done about a year ago. Yeah Alto comes back and is with Sheryl in it but Ranka also appears to hook up with Brera so… Also when Kawamori said he liked to see the author’s version of Sheryl (I forget the exact words) kind of killed any notion to me he actually had anything to do with it (like I assume with most of these different versions).
I’ve seen the SnT being like a DYRL movie theory before actually. The funny thing is is it was pointed out to me that likely whoever made it hated Sheryl. It’s really true if you think about it. I’m not sure how well it fits though, there are events that are in direct contrast. I mean right off the bat you have Sheryl getting rescued in the spot where Ranka was in the TV series. I can’t see Ranka or Alto wanting this memory to be altered like that same with other memories such as the park scene. Still I won’t say you couldn’t make a case for it. I’m just not of the mind that the movies really have to be completely meaningful.
If I were to take away a pairing ending from the different versions it would honestly be that it is fate that none of them are to be paired together because they really weren’t. Thinking about it it’s rather common in Macross. Zero ended with them all seemingly separated or at least we don’t know what happen. 7 also pretty much the same and SDF while they got married they were all lost in a fold fault not long after, I know that is stretching it a bit. Plus is different but Plus is not really Macross like the rest in many of the themes.
I could see a Ranka/Sheryl ending though and I don’t think it’s much of a stretch either even Ranka called out to Sheryl not Alto at the end of SnT. I think it’s up to the viewer in that regards to decide.
P.S. Found more spoilers and Kiss appears different after all… I do wonder where o find a proper synopsis as I’m not importing this thing.
Oh – I finally read your big post on the movie things https://openranka.wordpress.com/2012/10/28/reflections-one-year-after-macross-frontier-sayonara-no-tsubasa
To be honest, I don’t think it needs to be so complicated as supposing Kawamori swapped the girls etc. I just think that Ranka’s last song (not counting the credits) is simply not about Alto at all, it is about Ranka’s sad acceptance of an adult life. She is waiting, yes, but more for Sheryl to wake up, and Alto’s return might be a way to accomplish this. Or it might not. Ranka gives her blood anyway – not “to the girlfriend of the man who rejected her”, but to a woman she admires on her own. (I guess Ranka would give quite a stern lecture to any of her fans – and she has inworld fans all right – who tried badmouthing Sheryl).
And Ranka also deserves better than Alto. You noticed correctly that Alto is a man who can be molded. Sheryl wants such a man, and I say let her have him. Ranka deserves someone well established on his own. Just a thought – someone like Ozma, who is NOT related to her, has a stable profession he really believes in, a sense of honour and a lot of plain old badass. (I’m not saying I ship them – it’s just one example of a man who might suit Ranka more than Alto).
Honestly, if I ever write a post-canon Frontier fic, I will pair off Alto and Sheryl, send them off quickly on a romantic tour of the galaxy, a diplomatic visit to the new Vajra home, or to some other remote place, then proceed to chronicle Ranka’s adventures for the rest of the fic. Because she is so that much more interesting.
And I would not \even bring in another love interest unless she ages a couple of years before that. In my headcanon Ranka is so curious and interested in everything around her that she would mostly forget about being rejected the moment she hits an interesting trail, whatever that might be. (Lost Protoculture? A trace of the fate of the SDF-2? There’s just too much to explore in that universe to dwell on bygone pilots)
Last thing – I can well sympathize with your feelings for Ranka. I have an anime love too, for a looong time, Olga from Phoenix 2772 ( she’s a robot). Here’s the love story involving the making of a full dub: http://forums.tezukainenglish.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2771
To each his own I suppose, I don’t think Alto and Sheryl would work out very well after the honeymoon phase but I’ve talked about that enough before probably even in my blog in comments somewhere. I agree Ranka doesn’t need a love interest she is young it’s also why I think the idea of any of them getting paired for life at 17 is kind of crazy. Personally I think in the end it’s just open ended however you want to view it all because nothing specifically concrete happens. There were no wedding bells or even a kiss so the future is wide open for any of it to happen. Maybe in 5 years they all change and something happens but I think for this story there is nothing definitive lasting for life here. This is more how I view it now over that post your referencing.
I am still not sure about the closing credits song meaning though. I just find it easier to look at it the way I said there rather than a sad song of rejected love or something. I admit that is pretty much up to interpretation so unless someone has more evidence I’m leaving it as it is for my own happiness. lol
You might very well be right about what happens past the honeymoon phase because a tsundere star is… a tsundere star. And Ranka in 2 years, let alone 5, is not the cute kid she still looks like (though no longer thinks like) at the ending.
Besides, the only rushed wedding in the Macross universe has ended in separation, although a number of kids were born in it. I mean Max and Miliya Jenius, of course. Their love was enough to overcome *an interstellar war* (really) – yet not enough to survive years of simply living together.
On a totally different note, as a Ranka devotee you would be best to know – is there anything known about Ranka’s *father* as opposed to Ranshe Mei the mother? And who was half-Zentradi, the father or the mother? I’m somewhat missing that part as yet.
I’ve been wondering about Ranka’s father too, I have not seen anything on him. I’ve joked the vajra before because she is the queen but nothing out there afaik. I’ve also wondered if Ranka has a middle name but seems not too. lol
Thanks – so fic fodder 🙂 It helps that if you read her name as “Lanka” it is actually a meaningful, although not typical, contraction of the Russian “Svetlana”. In the movie Brera-unchipped does pronounce it as Lanka – and he would logically know best how to pronounce it. (No problem in the English spelling either way; in Russian I definitely prefer “Lanka” because “ranka” is “small wound”).
And is it correct that Ranshe Mei was half-Zentradi?
I’ve heard a few meanings behind Ranka such as the Chinese legend. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranka_%28legend%29 In story I’ve been told that Ranka is a word in Vajra if you pay attention to the lyrics of aimo in the vajra language you hear ranka in it.
I would guess Ranshe is half-zentradi but I don’t know for sure.
I think I understand the reason for our difference which might be simply about age, or if not, then self-perceived age-related stuff anyway.
For you Ranka is a “waifu”. But I look upon Ranka from a “fatherly” position (not necessarily father as such – just an older person rooting for a teenager – though I am old enough to be a father to a 16 yo if I but married earlier). It’s not so must not liking Alto/Ranka – it’s liking the idea of Ranka growing up, and leaving the crush on Alto behind as belonging to her “girl” phase. I just feel there is so much more before her.
For Sheryl, on the other hand, at least her first peak times are already gone. She might recover her popularity. Or she might not (despite remaining a professional).
I guess I see a pair with Alto as “settling down” and I see it as a proper phase for Sheryl and way too early for Ranka.
Well, if we look at the movies it’s different – there’s no Alto to settle down with. If an actual rescue operation is needed, of the two only Ranka can go on one, for the simple reason of Sheryl being in a coma. And they NEED Ranka on it because they will be folding into a multitude of ultra powerful Vajra, without Ranka or perhaps Sheryl it’s suicide. One does wonder where Alto’s feelings will go if he gets rescued by Ranka – after rejecting her. That, however, is deep in “fanfic fodder” territory. (I would actually see it as the most realistic possibility of Alto/Ranka in movieverse).
(And I hope you’re not like some Ranka fans on animesuki, who wanted to fold a few Ghosts there instead and finish him off for choosing the wrong girl. Way to show Vajra the maturity of humanity. After seeing this I thought the Sheryl crowd was more reasonable… then someone on MW leaked to me what these guys are up to on 2ch).
I can see your point and can’t really say your wrong to think so but I wouldn’t agree either. I would just counter that growing up is something that is somewhat independent of who you like. Like I said whoever Alto picked there it wasn’t like there was going to be a marriage the next day. Is it bad for Ranka to have a boyfriend? I don’t think so at all. If they had her getting married to Alto in the TV series as they landed on the planet yes I would say that might be more an issue with me. Yeah the movie more sold it like this was going to happen but the movie was a pandered fest to shippers who wanted this. I mean they had Sheryl and Alto know each other for only 2 months and decided it on a silly 2 minute meeting when they were like 10 and this is going to make them happy for life? I just face palm this thought process.
I don’t want Alto to die though although I can’t say I want him to come back for a while, maybe after Ranka and Sheryl gets married. XD But I’m fine with him just marrying the queen and Ranka and Sheryl going on tour together instead. lol I don’t know about those fans that want him to die, I mean I’ve seen horrible Ranka fans before but I see ones of anyone who is popular and shipping gets ugly regardless. I think overall though the Sheryl fans are much worse and I’d say your crazy if you wouldn’t think Sheryl shippers would’ve done the same if it was different if not in greater numbers just due to there being more of them.
P.S. Just realized what my name looks like in the Frontier context! It’s actually my real first name. I’m not pretending to be Michel/Mikhail – and if I was, I’d jump into the macronization chamber, loli problem solved.
I just realized. I really just realized – and I wonder if this is common knowledge, or got lost in shipping wars.
Whether Sheryl/Ranka “did it” or not, and whether any of them got to “do” Alto, simply does not matter compared to what is present between the two singers. Their emotional connection is probably deeper than any other two humans, perhaps comparable to mother+baby but for equals. And this statement has entirely canonical reasons having nothing to do with shipping and with any views on Sheryl and Ranka’s sexuality.
They are, at the TV ending (and post movie ending given Sheryl waking up), the only people who have the V-Type microbes and are able to function with them. (In TV this ability is more explicit). This apparently means each of them can feel what the other feels. *And even distance does not matter*. The old romantic trope of one of a loving pair feeling when something happens to the other is literally true in this case.
Let us imagine Sheryl gets in bed with Alto again (she did once in the TV series as clarified by the novels). She is healthy this time and likes it. All the happy emotions are transmitted straight to Ranka. Or else it’s Ranka who gets in bed with Alto, and her immense satisfaction get right into Sheryl. Not much of a rivalry, he’ll never get to feel any one of them like they feel each other. (Unless the infection works like an STD *and* Ranka can pull that control feat again *and* Alto can be trained to work with the microbes properly – wonder if he’d have to drop piloting and go back to dancing to stand a chance).
They are not a hive mind, it’s not brain implants, the infection is in the intestines and can only pick up the general emotional “waves”, not thoughts. But these “waves” get transmitted. That’s so much deeper than “just” being lesbian with each other. And it seems to be a logical outcome of pure canon.
I hope they can block this stuff out to some extent, or else Sheryl and Ranka would have trouble having concerts in different venues (even on different star systems) at the same time.
errr I guess I could see that but did I don’t know if they ever clarified if the infection worked exactly like this between two people with it and not the vajra involved. I would have to watch the show again and look for this.
I don’t know why everyone thinks what happens in the novels is a reference book for the series. At best it’s an interpretation by someone they hired to write for them or a what if story (or see my parallel worlds post). Although if you want something to go on as the camera moved away in that scene between Alto and Sheryl in ep 22 Sheryl says she can hear a song (aka Brera playing a second later who was with Ranka). I don’t think it could have been the infection at that time yet but I guess you could say it. I don’t remember Ranka having a reaction back so was anything going on there. lol
Personally I interpreted this as Alto’s earring being connected to Ranka since Sheryl hadn’t had this kind of a connection otherwise and he was either hugging or kissing or something who knows. The point is he was close to Sheryl at the time and her earring and I think she was feeling his connection he had with Ranka which is shown with the earring several times actually in the TV series. ymmv
At the time of Episode 22 the microbes were destroying Sheryl. So at the time Sheryl would not be able to feel anything by way of them.
My strong suspicion is about what happens after the ending when Sheryl gets the same kind of symbiosis with them that Ranka has (all thanks to Ranka… if there is something I understand even less than why Ranka fans want Alto to be with her, it’s why some Sheryl fans have the guts to hate the girl who saved Sheryl’s life even while they were supposed to be rivals).
I’d need to do some careful watching and checking to verify this suspicion.
Alto gets this to a certain extent by the earring, the easy way. I somehow think microbes would work better when fully in tune. otherwise why does Grace even need to bother having them in a singer, she has fold crystals os she can make these earrings… unless microbes=transmission, earring=reception?
Yes I didn’t think the infection at that time was it just a musing interpretation, I still stick by my earring interpretation for that scene because it seems way too much a coincidence of a statement otherwise.
I don’t even want to get into Sheryl fans irrational hate but yeah it’s crazy. I find it funny though the way you talk about Alto you seem to view him almost as a losers prize. I personally don’t see Ranka and Alto as having anything negative to anything, they already inspired each other to go farther in the show how can being together do anything but continue this. She pretty much said she was singing to him in her songs and he said he was protecting her in his flying. I don’t see him holding her down in the slightest and don’t understand your other views on it either but I won’t beleaguer the point too much because the facts are history so to speak.
I just hope your hate of Alto and Ranka didn’t come from listening to Sheryl shippers too much or something or being on like Animesuki too much which I stopped going to a long time ago for creditable insight. In fact most of the common places for Macross F info is filled with stuff putting down the pairing sadly. I just want to try be fair here and give another angle not seen much.
As for the Alto earring I agree with what you say, like I said you can see this subtly in how it responses to him and in what situations but it appears to be very limited. I think at best he was able to express some basic feelings towards the Vajra queen in SnT but that was about it, doesn’t seem to be able to reading back feelings but I would have to watch the show again to be sure of that.
“Hate” is way too strong a word for my view on Alto and Ranka – rather I am rather annoyed by shipping wars in general. If I really hate anything, it’s the apparent necessity (judging by net lore) to choose between (a) not liking Ranka at all, if not worse, or (b) shipping her with Alto.
(And Sheryl herself actually CAN be quite annoying, I’ve seen the type in real life. But I would rather respect Ranka’s view on the subject. Note how, in the second movie, Ranka took the rejection from Alto with a tear but stayed composed – looks more like “crap, I knew it” than an unexpected shock to me. Oh, and she asked him earlier not to tell her as it would make her unable to sing at the moment – apparently she did know it. And after that, it was Sheryl’s collapsing that visibly shocked her – even though she knew Sheryl was sick, too. She may be singing to Alto but she surely CARES for Sheryl. If I was forced at gunpoint to choose a ship in F, I’d pick Sheryl/Ranka, even though I have no idea if they ever actually got beyond hugs and holding hands).
Movie Alto *was* able to receive feelings from Vajra – that is how he was informed about the implants in them. In fact he had a much harder time communicating anything to Vajra. Even when he landed on the Queen, it’s debatable whether he communicated anything or just relayed the girls’ work. (In the latter case, poor Alto once they fold out).
Animesuki has piecemeal translations of the novels but filtering those from the shipping wars is a pain. I did eventually find a forum which has zero shipping wars because it is full of old-school fans who start with Super Dimension Fortress Macross. Look for Macross World. They have people in Japan and podcasts from Japan where they met cast members and it’s generally a very high level place, but feelings towards Frontier there are mixed (“mixed” is not “bad”, nearly anyone finds something good with F but people also find faults).
…and the absence of shipping wars is probably a result of old school fans simply having grown up, and new generations skipping old Macross altogether. According to tvtropes, in the older days there was lots of hate on Minmay from Hikaru/Misa shippers – despite the fact that Misa won out in canon, plain and simple.
Nah I don’t think you have to like Alto and Ranka to like Ranka my points were more I just don’t feel I agree with your reasons why you don’t like them together. If you had left it alone I would too, I just want people to understand the show correctly is my main point. But I do think that if you care for Ranka you’ll want to root for her to be with Alto because it’ll make her happy even if you find them not interesting. Like I said I see no negative sides to it so no reason to not want it for her sake even if you yourself don’t care much. I think that is more why fandom draws these lines I suppose because they don’t understand why you wouldn’t want your character to be happy. People can however have complex thoughts on the matter so I take every case uniquely.
By the way the unable to sing thing was said by Sheryl in the TV series to Alto in episode 24 in that same scene, I take it the same way you do in both cases. Sheryl also said she knew it all along in the TV series so I feel Ranka did too in the movies. I went into a little on my Macross F screenshot comparison post. On the singing to Alto point this was only said in the TV series, Ranka never once indicated this in the movies so I only will use it in the TV series. I feel the motivations behind all three changed greatly from TV to movie.
As for Alto and the queen I never got any indication that the earring gave him enough communication to the queen that she would understand him enough to return him later if that is why you said poor Alto. Especially not with the yf-29 gone. I rather think Alto would be lost until either someone goes and finds him (see my made up movie 3 story somewhere in my comments of my macross parallel worlds post) or Vajra can exist peacefully with humans which doesn’t seem any time soon. Also I don’t think Alto would’ve asked the queen to return him as it would endanger lives and put the Vajra (aka the universe) at risk being near possible evil humans. lol Seemed pretty clear he had no intentions of coming back, this is why TV series > movies plot wise.
I know of Macross World I even follow them on twitter although I still don’t visit the forums much. I am pretty sure I mention to you already that one of the podcasts has info on the Kiss in the Galaxy manga too. I know Minmay had haters, I think this is just something a part of Macross. I have a theory about it in my next blog post which I hopefully will post in the next week or two.
I surely do need to find that “movie 3 story” – we seem to be thinking in parallel here. I’ll try 🙂
remembering it a little the story was dumb and you have to go through a ton of bad comments (many by me) to find it. It was very basic just ranka remembers something about alto that gives her a motivate, sheryl wakes up and tells her to go get alto back even though she is too weak to go. They have a concert first. Go find the Vajra, bad people follow them and fight some. Find Alto on a planet and have a final showdown between vajra and bad guys and then they embrace as the movie ends.
The interesting question is where, in your version, Ranka gets the equipment to go find Alto – even if the microbes can make her fold (which is not in canon but could be a possibility), she needs something like a VF (civilian model with no Battroid would be fine) to survive in space and move around.
I, with some friends, actually have a similar plan in mind already but I can’t divulge the details now as we’re preparing it for a general fan fiction contest.
Oh I would assume Sheryl still had the sms under hired so she would just send them off or even without that the SMS would defiantly go with Ranka to save one of their own. Ranka just has to point the way which I forget if I had a reasoning behind it but well I’m sure you could think of something since crazier stuff has happen in Macross.
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